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Re: How to know if a machine uses EFI or BIOS?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:41 am
by JAAman
yes, that is exactly the question that this will not answer -- it doesn't tell you whether the underlying firmware is EFI, only whether windows is using EFI


if what you wanted to know is if windows is using EFI or BIOS, then you clearly worded your question wrong (since your question isn't actually about the firmware capabilities at all)

this answers the question:
"how can i tell if windows is using EFI?"

rather than the question you asked:
"how can i tell if the firmware uses EFI"

Re: How to know if a machine uses EFI or BIOS?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:59 am
by amitr0
JAAman wrote:yes, that is exactly the question that this will not answer -- it doesn't tell you whether the underlying firmware is EFI, only whether windows is using EFI


if what you wanted to know is if windows is using EFI or BIOS, then you clearly worded your question wrong (since your question isn't actually about the firmware capabilities at all)

this answers the question:
"how can i tell if windows is using EFI?"

rather than the question you asked:
"how can i tell if the firmware uses EFI"

i am not a bios guy, and I dont know the differneces between BIOS and EFI much. But I think the way you worded my qn "is windows using EFI?" is what I wanted to know.

Since we are on this topic, and I clearly know less, can you please tell me the differnece between "windows used EFI" and "firmware uses EFI"

If I understand correctly, and I can be totally off here, Windows can 'only' use EFI to boot if the underlying BIOS is EFI. If the BIOS is a hybrid and hte legacy path is set (like many DELL BIOSes) then Windows will boot through legacy path and the BCD parameters will identify the same.

Am I incorrect here?

Re: How to know if a machine uses EFI or BIOS?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:43 am
by gravaera
What is a "BIOS guy"?

Re: How to know if a machine uses EFI or BIOS?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:04 pm
by amitr0
berkus wrote:
amitr0 wrote:Am I incorrect here?
You might consider learning to read.
JAAman wrote:many systems where EFI is supported will not be detected correctly, because windows is using BIOS boot -- almost all motherboards today support EFI, however, it is disabled by default (for maximum out-of-the-box compatibility), therefore windows will be installed using BIOS instead... which means that this function will return BIOS results, even though the system supports EFI
Here's your difference.

is there any reason for the attitude? maybe you guys know more than I do, does that mean you insult posters? If that is what is forum is about, snobbery, I would rather stay off it.

Re: How to know if a machine uses EFI or BIOS?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:34 pm
by DavidCooper
amitr0 wrote:is there any reason for the attitude? maybe you guys know more than I do, does that mean you insult posters? If that is what is forum is about, snobbery, I would rather stay off it.
Do you expect people in a place like this to have normal social skills? We don't have time for that kind of thing. Don't mistake it for snobbery - to succeed in this game you probably have to suffer from several syndromes, many of which have yet to be given names by medical science, so if you never get insulted by people here you probably aren't doing it right.

Re: How to know if a machine uses EFI or BIOS?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:00 am
by amitr0
berkus wrote:
amitr0 wrote:is there any reason for the attitude? maybe you guys know more than I do, does that mean you insult posters? If that is what is forum is about, snobbery, I would rather stay off it.
Insult is only in the eyes of beholder. Your readiness to admit victimizing and invent being insulted only proves that. Instead of taking the advice and actually learning to read you keep on plowing out results of your imagination taking stabs into the darkness. "Learn to read" is my generic advice to people who are generally unable to do so, especially on this forum, you may revisit my posts history if you think you're the only so called "victim". Stop writing here, take your time and READ.

Does it sound less insulting to you now?

I never said I wont read, or l am not reading right now. But I do take offense in the way you put it 'learn to read', what makes you think you are in a position to advice me? What makes me you think I am imagining things about you insulting me. Why do you assume english to be the first language for all posters, in a forum one needs to be polite. If do wht yu can to answer the qn, contribute to the thread or just shut up.

Just because I admitted that I knew less of a topic and politely admitted that my sentence construction was incorrect, doesnt allow you to write such comments.

What do you mean ' people who are generally unable to do so' you think we are all stupid? Please keep such answers and insults to yourself stop trolling others threads!

Re: How to know if a machine uses EFI or BIOS?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:12 am
by Combuster
I don't want to know how many forum rules you just broke.


Or should I say: Successful troll is successful. This place's subject deals with epic levels of development skills. 99% of worlds developers are too stupid to be here, and you just showed that you are no exception.

Barbarians don't do advanced wizardry.