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Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:41 am
by Solar
I know the PhpWiki team has been tinkering with authentification for quite some time; perhaps it's worth looking at one of the newer versions to see if they finally got it to work.

It would be a shame to be locked out again (and df having *more* work putting in all contributions, not *less*). I believe the FAQ has matured quite some since it was turned into a free-for-all Wiki. (Can you still remember the static HTML version?)

If PhpWiki doesn't get it right still, I could be looking around for a Wiki that does.

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:51 am
by B.E
Insted of allowing only aministrators being able to change the Wiki. why not only restrict changing to users that have posted less then say 50 or 100 post in the forum. That whay only the user interrest in OS Development can change the Wiki.

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:04 am
by Solar
PhpWiki and YaBB SE aren't exactly integrated with each other. And I prefer to think that the number of posts doesn't really matter.

I'd settle for the "standard" procedure: Requiring user to apply for an account using a valid e-mail address and confirming the subscription.

But in the end, it's up to what PhpWiki can do, since I don't think df is in a mind of heavy PHP tinkering...

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:24 am
by df
I looked at mediawiki but it doesnt support user accounts etc, and other features I was looking for. phpwiki development seems.. very limited lately. but its still alive tho so......

i guess we just have to keep going the way we are going. making backups, checking for spam etc. :(

aah well.

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:18 am
by zyp
What do you mean with user accounts? Mediawiki got that.
And what about backups? Doesn't phpwiki store history?
Mediawiki won't let users do any irreversible changes.
What other features were you looking for?

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:22 am
by Solar
zyp wrote: And what about backups? Doesn't phpwiki store history?
Yes, PhpWiki does store history, but when sweeping damage is done (or the MySQL got corrupted), restoring from a DB backup is easier.

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:28 pm
by df
media wiki acounts dont do squat. they dont have any real user account system and wont until 2.0

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:05 pm
by erikgreenwald
I've noticed two consistant hostnames of spammers on my own wiki, but no deleters... (probably because my wiki is set up so only admins can delete :) )... which has led me to firewall these two IP's

83.65.7.162
148.244.150.58

:) I only bring this up because I notice one of the IP's match the spammers here (the 83. one)... Perhaps if enough wiki type folk share blacklists and disable non-admin deletion, wikis everywhere can be a little safer

-Erik

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:26 pm
by hgb
Why not use this wiki instead ???

http://nasm.sourceforge.net/wakka.php?wakka=HomePage

You need to register with a email also with a password (I dont think there exist a confirmation email)....

Is setup that only registered users can modify the Wiki, tought I supose they can register, but take a little more of work log in for modify in a no sense way ;).

I will check the versions of the pages for find out what Wiki software is.
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By the way, I also have modified the Wiki in the QUEMU section ;)....

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:09 am
by Candy
We are not going to switch to somebody elses wiki without a decent reason. Everybody knows this one is here, what is in it, everybody can modify it, it's intended for OS development, why switch?

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:23 am
by hgb
Because I read some post before about the spam...
Im also thinking of adding a question line into the save function to stop wiki spam.
Because you need be good at login, ie perhaps the admin have to enter a password, but I can login writing that Im another person, you can go now and in the login box type "PypeClicker" you will see that you are logged like "PypeClicker" when you are not, the other wiki is more strict at this.


Tought the other wiki aparently dosent have spam at the contents of... but have spam in the content of the comments.. (look at the comments in the first page), you see there is spam, but there is no spam in the page.


I supose that the wiki that is already setup can be configured in a little more strict way?

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:23 pm
by Therx
Candy: I don't think he meant to use the NASM wiki, but to use the wakkawiki software that runs it. The website for it appears to be dead but a branch which "builds on it" is at http://wikka.jsnx.com/WakkaWiki

Just a suggestion (never used it myself but it does seem to have more /control/)

Pete

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:08 pm
by hgb
Yes I was refering to use another Wikki... not another server.

Bad that is not more updated (I have not checked the complete page tought...), but seems like a good option??? also Im sure that in this moment there are more than one Wikki out there that perhaps can take the place???

I dont have more sugestions of Wikki, perhaps other guy.


By the way in the quemu section of the faq, there is this
n testing my OSDev stuff, I found it far better than Bochs.
Im following some tuts I have setup the GDT, but Im now entering to IDT stuff, then I have decided make

Code: Select all

xor bx, bx
div bl
Before call the main in the C code (loading the kernel with GRUB) and this make QUEMU hang terribly, I need to kill the app trying close it a serie of times to finally get the message box that say "this application is not responding" or use the taskmanager for kill it. In those moments make usage at 100% but more like if where a application with the priority class a little more high than the normal....

I also have watched this thing when I was loading a GDT that dosent point to a good place not in the loading but when entering to PMode, because it print the string "enabling A20" and then "entering to PMode" and it hangs, I need to kill it.


Apart from this is a very nice :D, but I guess bochs is more developed in taht regard (triple faults and such things.. or how are called this errors??), by the way, with boch the same second image taht cause quemu to hang in boch show a messagebox device: [CPU] message: fetch_raw_descriptor: LDTR.valid=0 and the options for kill it, dump and other ones that I dont remember.

Bochs with the image that make QUEMU hang about the div eror makes Boch reeboot without question (like is suposed to be the normal behaviour not????)

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:19 am
by Pype.Clicker
rea wrote: Because you need be good at login, ie perhaps the admin have to enter a password, but I can login writing that Im another person, you can go now and in the login box type "PypeClicker" you will see that you are logged like "PypeClicker" when you are not, the other wiki is more strict at this.
Indeed, you *could* do that, but i'd then have the opportunity of logging myself as PypeClicker and undo your stuff. Plus other green-starred ppl on the forum knows things about me / could contact me on ICQ or private mail or whatever and discover rather quickly the identity usurpation.

So would that be of such importance beyond the fact a kiddish joke has been made. I don't think so.

Re:Working on the OS FAQ

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 10:42 am
by hgb
What about this wiki? http://sourceforge.net/projects/wikiwig/ it claim to have user management and also will be more easy to edit pages in a nice looking way, tought I have read that some combinations of chars dosent work ok, but in the major part look nice.

Is suposed to have "versionning", but I cant find where I get access to for example last edits :). http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php? ... _id=407974 there say taht "in the next release" but dont know if that release is already there... And about the page protection :( http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php? ... _id=407974

Was looking nice because you dont need to manually put the format :)...