New OS list

xyz1 · Post by **xyz1** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:55 am

What do you think, about new box "OS Projects" in the main wiki page. My idea is to make more informative list of OS-es. See:
http://www.osdev.org/wiki/Template:OS_projects
In section "OS Projects Instructions" will be written what parameters must be with any OS in the list "(New) OS Projects". Section "Innovative Features" will contain some (very) interesting implemented in some OS.

To add this new box, it is enough insert then next line (in bold)

{{Box|subject= Resources}}
{{Box|subject= OS projects}}

in the main wiki page. Also, it is good to remove

* [[Projects|OS Projects]]

in template "Resources".
I am not do this, since 1. my English is bad, and 2. I am not sure, that others will be agree with my idea.

chase · Post by **chase** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:41 am

I'd rather not change the structure of that page often because I encourage other sites to mirror that page. Also why I'm not using any templates, it makes it harder to mirror since mirrors can't just export a single wiki page.

xyz1 · Post by **xyz1** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:31 am

OK, good, but I think, that it is good idea, if someone extend list of properties, which he want to know, about one os:
http://www.osdev.org/wiki/Describe_new_OS_project

why I'm not using any templates

There is not any templates even in my idea - wiki system denote contents of box, as templates.

jhawthorn · Post by **jhawthorn** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:20 pm

I prefer the list how it is now. Several aspects (GUI for example) don't apply to every OS. Others are mentioned in the OS's description on the old page if they are of interest. I feel that listing all of this information about every OS would give a less accurate idea of it. However this page world work well as say, guidelines of what to put into the description of the OS (maybe as a subpage of [wiki]OSDevWiki:Editing[/wiki]).

pulsar · Post by **pulsar** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:57 pm

how it is displayed doesn't concern me but what is displayed should be given more important. some os projects are more simple that only a floppy and fat driver is present and doesn't allow adding modules or new drivers. So we have to categorize the operating system. i am not saying that they should be given ranks based on their design, because it would discourage the developers. but instead we could categorize them based on someother criteria.

xyz1 · Post by **xyz1** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:12 am

Several aspects (GUI for example) don't apply to every OS.

Yes, in this case it will be writte "GUI: none"!

but instead we could categorize them based on someother criteria.

This is exactly my idea.

Combuster · Post by **Combuster** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:30 am

Two things:
- A project has a description
- A project generally has a website or mail address
People wanting to get more information about an os should follow those hints.
I doubt we should document every hobby OS here, as it takes lot of space outside the topic of the wiki. And doing so on the projects page will bloat things to close to unreadability.

What we can consider is J.Hawthorn's idea of putting up description guidelines. Alternatively, we can make a second page called Hobby OS Comparison, which can or can not be mirrored depending on chase or his friends.

Problem arising from such comparisons is that some oses are so different that they can not be listed properly without underrating or overrating it. E.g. my os (arguably) has a GUI, even though i use box characters to emulate pixels in text mode

spix · Post by **spix** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:42 am

It sounds like you want something like distrowatch for hobby OS?

I think such a website would be better made not in a wiki. Something tuned for just that purpose.

You could then have many catagories and the OS maintainer selects the ones that apply, then using the database you could list all the oses that support feature X, or all the microkernel OSes and so on.

I don't think it would work as a wiki.

Andrew

xyz1 · Post by **xyz1** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:44 am

spix wrote:It sounds like you want something like distrowatch for hobby OS?

I think such a website would be better made not in a wiki. Something tuned for just that purpose.

You could then have many catagories and the OS maintainer selects the ones that apply, then using the database you could list all the oses that support feature X, or all the microkernel OSes and so on.

I don't think it would work as a wiki.

Andrew

I am agree, BUT I think, that "such a website" must be part of this "osdev.org" site - this is almost impossible! To create such site we must determ the properties, which we shall save, about projects. E.i. it is necessary to improve this page:
http://www.osdev.org/wiki/Describe_new_OS_project

Combuster wrote: Two things:
- A project has a description
- A project generally has a website or mail address

What do you think, about:
--------------------
List of:
- A project has a one line description.
- A project has link to wiki page of project.
\-->
- A project has a long description.
- All other parameters, about this os...
--------------------

Combuster · Post by **Combuster** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:09 am

xyz1 wrote:
Combuster wrote: Two things:
- A project has a description
- A project generally has a website or mail address
What do you think, about:
--------------------
List of:
- A project has a one line description.
- A project has link to wiki page of project.
\-->
- A project has a long description.
- All other parameters, about this os...
--------------------

You totally missed the point.
This happens already, but the link is just external.

spix · Post by **spix** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:15 am

This happens already, but the link is just external. Wink

If the link still exists. A lot of the time I click on links to OS projects they aren't there anymore. If someone wanted to take the time to make a wiki page for specific oses, I could see a benifet in having a wiki link alongside the URL.