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Im also thinking of adding a question line into the save function to stop wiki spam.

nothing harsh just something like

whats the 3rd letter of the word "canary"

this is enough to stop any automated bots...

what do people think of that?
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df wrote: Im also thinking of adding a question line into the save function to stop wiki spam.

nothing harsh just something like

whats the 3rd letter of the word "canary"

this is enough to stop any automated bots...

what do people think of that?
what if you give the content field a name related to the page? They are now submitted (I guess) with a default name, allowing spambots to abuse them. Changing it to the md5 of the page name makes it like harder, and changing it to a public key encrypted version makes it impossible for them without using the links or source page.
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i guess all of you are bored to see the FAQ defaced by spammers two times a day. I'm locking the home page (only admins will be allowed to change its content)

Same goes for the "PhpWiki" page too ...
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I have a "unique" kernel design (sort of a monolith and micro kernel wipped into one). Should I add it to the faq/ask somebody to add it? (once a document that is readable it made).
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Dragon_Hilord wrote: I have a "unique" kernel design (sort of a monolith and micro kernel wipped into one). Should I add it to the faq/ask somebody to add it? (once a document that is readable it made).
Well, we're trying to keep the FAQ generic and basing on well-known examples (like linux, mach, Win NT, L4, etc) ... But that shouldn't prevent you from writing the document, of course :)
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i was just going to lock the frnt page and saw someone had done it already. cheers...
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@pype: no problemo. (it's still in the "attic design phase" ;P)
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To BI:

Thanks for your contribution to VirtualMonitor page ... I took the liberty to rephrase a few things, to isolate the effect of "IOPL=3" thingy (since Tim explicitely suggest leaving it to another value).

I also removed the part about using the page fault handler to load code in VM task from the GRUB image... That's a neat technique in itself, but certainly not mandatory and it could lead ppl to alot of confusion (imho).
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beyond infinity wrote: dumbass spammers. It doesn't suffice that they spam your average mailbox with their filth, no, they have to trash around on wiki like ours too. As if they'd get profit from such crap actions.
Unfortunately, they do. Among other parameters, Google ranks pages according to how many other pages link to them.

That makes "prominent" Wikis like ours a good target for spam sites that want to get a boost to their ranking.

On the upside, I recommend people to have a look at our Wiki to see how a good Wiki is "healed" of such defacements pretty quickly by it's community.
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I read an article somewhere about spammers, and how much money they really make.
I don?t remember excatly how much it was, but i remember how suprised i was, that it could be that much $$ on just a couple of million spam-mails.. ;-)
Anyway, they don?t have problems paying up the court bills.

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True, but that won't necessarily keep them out of jail if they go totally out of control like Peter Francis MacRae did. Making death threats on a police phone operator? Sheesh. I can only figure that he'd gotten away with so much already that he thought he was untouchable. Fortunately for the rest of us, he wasn't.

(However, unlike most spammers, Weaselboy has been a fairly public - and fairly absurd - figure, and watching his antics has become something of a hobby for a number fo people, just as with. Also, he's better known for his ISP frauds, which burned a fair number of people. For every notorious figure like him, or like Sanford Wallace here in the US, there are dozens of anonymous spammers.)
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Hmm.. If i started a buisness like that for a couple of years i would be set for life... But i would also be hated by most internet users.. Hmm again.. ;)
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Ehm... is there some way to get an account into the OSFaq that I've missed, or does it simply function by asking? I mean, I could use an account... although I guess I can live without too...

edit: urgh, figured it out... stupid me.
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thanks for restoring the pages in the osfaq ppl.

i do have a sql backup from feb11 so nothing is missed. considering they would have had to manually delete + confirm delete the pages.. it pisses me off, why would someone bother to try and wreck it all?

every single morning i have to go in and check spam and such... everyday I become more annoyed..

all the deletes came from *.washoe.k12.nv.us this time..

im begning to really not bother with the spirit of the wiki and leaning more and more into just locking the bloody thing down so only admin can changes pages. but then whats the point.
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as "keeper" explained, that's a script kiddie that used his account to unleash its frustration. Things should get back to normal now (hopefully) since i doubt the kiddie will like to do such things from its *own* system ...

authentification would indeed be nice if it works properly (e.g. if i'm not forced to re-authentify everytime), but this forum is one of the only php-based software that seems to do it perfectly enough ...
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