Will PC manufacturers change the selection of windows ?

[vjeremiah]

Windows is conquering most part of the PC's world.

If a new operating system arises like windows (or higher than windows features) will the PC manufacturers such as Dell,HP, Lenova, Compaq prefer that new operating system??
(OR)
Is there is any rules to give up their relation between Windows?

[VolTeK]

will the PC manufacturers such as Dell,HP, Lenova, Compaq prefer that new operating system??
(OR)

Money, and a user base around an already couple million strong.

[dozniak]

Windows is conquering most part of the PC's world.

One small fact you're not mentioning - PC world is dying and shrinked quite significantly in the recent years.

Are you straight from 1995?

[iansjack]

This is not a question about Operating System Development.

[Combuster]

Windows is conquering most part of the PC's world.

Learn to read - especially the previous thread. Windows is actually losing ground.

[Brendan]

Hi,

Windows is conquering most part of the PC's world.

One small fact you're not mentioning - PC world is dying and shrinked quite significantly in the recent years.

The PC world is not dying.

Some people want servers, some people want laptop/desktop/workstation systems, some people want small mobile devices (smartphone, tablet), and some people want a combination of multiple computers (e.g. desktop and smartphone).

Before good small mobile devices existed, people that actually wanted them bought laptop/desktop systems instead. This means that in the past sales of PCs were higher than it should have been (people buying them because they couldn't get what they actually want). Now that good small mobile devices exist these people are buying them instead, and sales of PCs is dropping back to what it should've been.

Laptop/desktop/workstation PC sales will drop a little more, but it will level out (people that do want laptop/desktop/workstation systems will continue to want them) and then probably stay steady (or increase slightly due to population growth). Of course because the small mobile devices are under-powered and disposable, server sales will increase (e.g. "cloud" used for processing and long term storage) and most servers are PCs too.

The other thing is how long stuff remains in use before being replaced/upgraded. For a lot of people's laptop/desktop/workstation systems this is tied to Windows releases. For example, when everyone shifted from Win9x to WinXP a lot of hardware got replaced. For recent versions of Windows people aren't switching to the newer version of Windows as much and when they do often their existing hardware is fine "as is". The same will eventually happen for small mobile devices - e.g. eventually people who actually want a smartphone won't have a good enough reason to replace their existing smartphone and smartphone sales will drop significantly.

There are a few other thing that come into it too. For example, in a house where everyone has smartphones/tablets and nobody wants a laptop/desktop; it makes a lot of sense to have a PC hidden somewhere (e.g. inside a TV cabinet) for shared internet, file storage/backups and media centre (e.g. with TV tuners capturing video and streaming it to tablet/s over WiFi or whatever); and then attach stuff like a DVD reader/writer, a printer/scanner and a huge screen or something to it.


Cheers,

Brendan

[Brendan]

Hi,

If a new operating system arises like windows (or higher than windows features) will the PC manufacturers such as Dell,HP, Lenova, Compaq prefer that new operating system??
(OR)
Is there is any rules to give up their relation between Windows?

For all things (not just OSs); to displace an entrenched product with a large market share you need a significantly better product (not merely "slightly better") than the entrenched product; for some definition of "better" (which could mean same quality/features for a significantly cheaper price, or significantly better quality/features for the same price, or...).

For a general purpose OS, it'd be extremely difficult for an OS to be significantly better than Windows. This means that you'd need to start from some sort of niche market (an OS that is *not* intended as a general purpose OS) and become entrenched in that niche; then slowly/gradually encroach on the "general purpose OS" market from that niche. This would take a long long time and has certain risks (e.g. ending up with design decisions that make it too hard to grow much beyond the initial niche).


Cheers,

Brendan

[dozniak]

The potential market size for mobile and tablets is much bigger than for desktop/PC.

Potentially, every single person on earth would have one or more mobile device, either handheld, tablet or implant. Much less would ever have a desktop or laptop machine.

The technology is shifting towards portable and embeddable daily use devices and I can clearly see a 100 times or more difference in number of simultaneously used mobiles versus total number of desktops. Hence "dying PC market" - it is shrinking because the other market has possibility to grow nearly unbounded in the near future.

[Brendan]

Hi,

The potential market size for mobile and tablets is much bigger than for desktop/PC.

Potentially, every single person on earth would have one or more mobile device, either handheld, tablet or implant. Much less would ever have a desktop or laptop machine.

The technology is shifting towards portable and embeddable daily use devices and I can clearly see a 100 times or more difference in number of simultaneously used mobiles versus total number of desktops. Hence "dying PC market" - it is shrinking because the other market has possibility to grow nearly unbounded in the near future.

The soles of my shoes are probably about 20 mm thick. When I take my shoes off, my height shrinks from about 1820 mm down to 1800 mm in about 5 seconds. Based on this rate of shrinkage, after 7.5 minutes my height would be 0 mm. Do I die every time I take my shoes off for longer than 5 minutes? I don't think so...


Cheers,

Brendan

[OSwhatever]

Since Microsoft released Windows 8, a lot of people are starting to look elsewhere.

[dozniak]

Do I die every time I take my shoes off for longer than 5 minutes? I don't think so...

I don't think so either. But you're completely renewed every 7 years or so, so you do die in a certain sense - there are no original cells in your body after a while.

What was the topic again?

[Mikemk]

I think the OP likes to troll

PC manufacturers will distribute whichever operating system is most profitable.
OSs such as Ubuntu are free and better, but most consumers have never heard of them, and so won't buy hardware with them.

[Antti]

PC manufacturers will distribute whichever operating system is most profitable.

It would be best to distribute many OSs. Unfortunately, Microsoft has probably made an agreement that prohibits distributing other OSs if a manufacturer wants to have OEM products. It is hard to make any business without them. However, it would be possible to have some models with other OSs pre-installed if there were no any agreements that prohibit it. I think most of the manufacturers would do so. Why not?

@vjeremiah: Please answer something instead of just creating new threads.

[joatin37]

There is no need to sell computors with other os. There is no need to ship regular computers with mac os since apple wont allow it anyway. And Linux is free, so people could get that anyway. Windows however costs a lot. Its therefor a good way to marketing your computer when you have it installed. If Linux would go commercial there would probably be computors with it preinstalled.

[Combuster]

Troll #4?