Should we switch the default skin to Vector?

chase · Post by **chase** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:28 am

Vector, included in mediawiki 1.18, is now the default skin for wikipedia. Would you guys like to switch? You can test with:
http://wiki.osdev.org/index.php?title=M ... kin=vector
http://wiki.osdev.org/index.php?title=M ... n=monobook

xenos · Post by **xenos** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:03 am

It doesn't make much of a difference to me, since both skins look rather clear and structured. But I think personal preferences of registered wiki users are only a secondary issue, since one can simply change a different skin if one doesn't like the default.

The main difference I see between the two skins is the location of the search box. Since Wikipedia's default style is now Vector, people (and mostly newbies) get more and more used to the search box in the upper right corner, so I think the Vector style makes more sense.

Owen · Post by **Owen** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:46 am

Vector. As much as I wish that every wiki on the internet didn't have exactly the same theme... Vector is far better looking than Monobook

(Much like, in my opinion, the difference between SubSilver and ProSilver for phpBB)

CrypticalCode0 · Post by **CrypticalCode0** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:27 am

This poll seem rather one sided.

The point here is a bit about Aesthetics, should we really go all out with a discussion here?

thepowersgang · Post by **thepowersgang** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:35 am

As someone who strives to minimise UI usage (mostly because many applications break when run on a netbook due to lack of space) monobook is slightly better due to having a larger content space. That said, I can change my personal preferences, and it is a minuscule difference. Vector looks better, and seems to be a cleaner design (less sharp lines that draw the eye to non-important items).

gravaera · Post by **gravaera** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:56 am

I like the current wiki style more, personally :O

Jezze · Post by **Jezze** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:19 pm

+1 Vector

chase · Post by **chase** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:13 pm

Given the way the poll is trending I'll go ahead and make the switch. If you are still seeing the old (monobook) style then you need to modify your personal preferences.

Love4Boobies · Post by **Love4Boobies** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:52 am

While I do like the Vector theme better and have voted for it, I do have a little complaint about it (perhaps it's configurable, though?): While, looking through some random pages to see whether the theme works well for our purposes, I noticed that the font for source code and text snippets is too small. E.g., see the UEFI page.

EDIT: This seems to happen with Firefox (I currently use version 9.01) but not Chrome. I don't know about other browsers.

: What does it say?

xenos · Post by **xenos** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:09 am

Love4Boobies wrote:EDIT: This seems to happen with Firefox (I currently use version 9.01) but not Chrome. I don't know about other browsers.

I had a look at the same page with both the monobook and the vector skin and, strangely, there is no difference in the font sizes for the code examples. I use Firefox 9.0.1 on Ubuntu 10.04.

Maybe I found the reason for this behavior: The vector skin uses a font-family: monospace,"Courier New"; for formatting the code examples. Firefox allows configuring different default font sizes for fixed-width and variable-width fonts (Edit / Preferences / Contents / Fonts & Colors / Advanced). So I guess you have set different values here for fixed-width and variable-width fonts.

Love4Boobies · Post by **Love4Boobies** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:09 am

It's odd. The sizes were properly set---I did however set the minimum font size to 12 (rather than none) and that seems to have fixed the problem. The wiki should be readable with the defaults provided by Firefox, though. Not to mention that this has an adverse effect on other websites. I'm currently on my Windows box.

chase · Post by **chase** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:16 am

Testing on a Windows 7 box, both Chrome and IE look fine. FF 9 has the problem of super tiny text.

Anyone want to try to modify the CSS and see if they can get it working for all 3 browsers?

http://wiki.osdev.org/MediaWiki:Common.css
http://wiki.osdev.org/MediaWiki:Vector.css

Love4Boobies · Post by **Love4Boobies** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:10 am

The page is protected so I can't edit it. Here is the fix, add it to Common.css:

Code: Select all

div.mw-geshi div
div.mw-geshi div pre,
span.mw-geshi,
pre.source-css,
pre.source-javascript {
    font-family: monospace, "Courier New" !important;
}

chase · Post by **chase** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:56 pm

Adding the bug for easy tracking: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26204

I think their fix is missing a comma.

I had to update SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi to the latest. The style info wasn't the same so the fix didn't work.

I also reapplied Combuster's additional asm keywords so everything should be working like before but now look okay in FireFox.

Note that they changed the recommended usage to <syntaxhighlight lang="c"></syntaxhighlight> instead of <source lang="c"></source> because source tags can occur inside of some languages. The old syntax still works. See: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension ... ight_GeSHi

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