The programmer Device

Dex · Post by **Dex** » Sun May 25, 2008 11:41 am

What do you endup with if you ask a group of games programmers and a group of OS Dev, what they want from a handheld device ?.
ANSWER http://www.openpandora.org/
I have been working on a DexOS ver for this device and can not Waite until they are available to the general public

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Pyrofan1 · Post by **Pyrofan1** » Sun May 25, 2008 3:25 pm

It's only a matter of time before they have WoW running on that

Combuster · Post by **Combuster** » Sun May 25, 2008 4:59 pm

25% more expensive than a DS and 10x computing power. Wow.

Zenith · Post by **Zenith** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:18 pm

Here in Canada, it's more like 2.5 times the price (DS costs like $120)...

You have to admit though, that does look pretty awesome! It has a decent processor, great graphics power, SD card readers and even a USB port! That is epic.

Hopefully it'll support something better than WiFi

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Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:34 pm

A "programmers" device that has a proprietary GPU, the only way to access it is a binary Linux driver blob?

I'll pass, this system isn't "developer friendly" enough..

Alboin · Post by **Alboin** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:48 pm

Brynet-Inc wrote:I'll pass, this system isn't "developer friendly" enough..

Wow. You're like that guy who rejects those who reject the norm to begin with. A rejecter rejecter, if you will.

That's pretty hardcore.

Personally, I just like to reject myself rejecting the norm, thus rejecting myself tail recursive style.

jal · Post by **jal** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:03 am

Dex wrote:http://www.openpandora.org/ I have been working on a DexOS ver for this device and can not Waite until they are available to the general public ;) .

Brynet-Inc wrote:A "programmers" device that has a proprietary GPU, the only way to access it is a binary Linux driver blob?

So, if you are both right, Dex is using the binary blob? Any device that cannot natively run my OS is not worth having :).

JAL

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:10 am

jal wrote:So, if you are both right, Dex is using the binary blob? Any device that cannot natively run my OS is not worth having .

JAL

The CPU is ARM, the GPU is proprietary.. primitive visuals may be possible, but the 3D capabilities the device boasts will be restricted.

If the didn't allow native code, (Java or something..) I would have asked that this thread be burned and Dex be banned for abandoning his low-level principles..

Combuster · Post by **Combuster** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:15 am

You could always reverse engineer that binary blob. They broke down ATI's GameCube chip before, They worked out the DreamCast's PowerVR chip (pandora's got a PowerVR too) and those aren't even the things with the largest cult around...

So brynet-inc, Do the community a favor and spend your time actually helping the world get rid of binary blobs

jal · Post by **jal** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:56 am

Combuster wrote:You could always reverse engineer that binary blob.

Yeah, but that costs quite a lot of time, time I'm not willing to invest. On the other hand, the 2D framebuffer stuff is opened up, so simple applications could use that.

JAL

Pype.Clicker · Post by **Pype.Clicker** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:59 am

not mentionning that all we know of the DS chip was obtained through reverse-engineering too

Dex · Post by **Dex** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:25 am

Cool to see you post Pype.Clicker

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suthers · Post by **suthers** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:26 am

I agree, haven't seen you in ages...
Jules

edit: weird two regulars have come back recently... (df and Pype.Clicker...)

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