[OT] Looking for Way to start ISO/IMG Image from HDD,...

keremg · Post by **keremg** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:47 am

lurner wrote:Well you did ask how to "make some entry inside a config-alike file and at next reboot i wanted to start that ISO from a Menu entry" and I told you how. Never said it would work for what you're doing. Why not write your own, now its...

cheers

Dude, i think you misunderstood my OP,....forget it!

Read what others replied to my OP and you will know what i've asked here. Writing a application for this concern is a bit too much and i think it is ok when i stay at a ready to use VM like VMWare, VPC or QEMU, since there are a lot of thinks to "implement" before i can do the thing i want to do...so i will forget this idea and stay at a available VM,...

Combuster · Post by **Combuster** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:09 am

Brynet-Inc wrote:
crazygray1 wrote:You can boot from cd-rw's?
Why not? I'm not aware of any technical restrictions associated with CD-RW disks... as long as it has a valid bootloader, it should work just fine..

I installed Gentoo from CD-RW. My os runs from CD-RW.

If your CD drive can read RWs then there's no way that it matters. After all, CDs and RWs have the same format, only a different carrying medium.

There is a solution, lol. I told you already that you could do this using the boot.ini /kernel switch. I'm not sure what your .IMG consists of, but if it is capable of booting an OS, then it will work.

This is a seriously uneducated statement. Bootable CDs do not work the way harddisks and floppies do. The BIOS has to interpret the filesystem, locate the boot catalog, and from there decide wether to load code into memory, which is not located at the start of the CD. If the windows bootloader must be able to boot from CDs, it must be able to determine that it indeed is a CD and not some other file, and then be able to act accordingly.

According to microsoft, the /kernel option loads a windows kernel, not an image. Thus, would you next time please be careful about saying things - Providing the wrong information is worse than providing no information at all.

lurner · Post by **lurner** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:33 am

I told the guy from the very first post that I didn't know what I was talking about and that I was only suggesting a possible way that I too was looking into for other reasons. He kept on asking me how to do it, so I told him what I knew. It was up to him to debunk it or not.

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:42 pm

lurner wrote:I told the guy from the very first post that I didn't know what I was talking about and that I was only suggesting a possible way that I too was looking into for other reasons. He kept on asking me how to do it, so I told him what I knew. It was up to him to debunk it or not.

That's just pathetic... you're saying that you didn't entirely understand his question, so you gave him faulty advice instead of simply telling him you didn't have a clue?

Simply pathetic man...

lurner · Post by **lurner** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:09 pm

oh my gosh, why don't you just go piss off mate!! BTW, Windows is best!! And, if you think you're gonna come in here and strong arm me you're fucking crazy!!

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:53 pm

lurner wrote:oh my gosh, why don't you just go piss off mate!! BTW, Windows is best!! And, if you think you're gonna come in here and strong arm me you're fucking crazy!!

I'm not your "mate".

And if "Windows is best"... Why are you using the DOS port of GCC/bintuils (DJGPP) instead of the "native" port? (MinGW)

As for me "strong arming" you, I don't have any idea what you're talking about...

quok · Post by **quok** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:10 pm

lurner wrote:oh my gosh, why don't you just go piss off mate!! BTW, Windows is best!! And, if you think you're gonna come in here and strong arm me you're fucking crazy!!

Are you suffering from Tourettes? Is it treatable? Can you have Typing Tourettes?

Seriously, there's no need for such language on this forum. We're all here to help each other. If you can't do that, and be nice about it, you should perhaps just leave.

keremg · Post by **keremg** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:27 pm

lurner wrote:I told the guy from the very first post that I didn't know what I was talking about and that I was only suggesting a possible way that I too was looking into for other reasons. He kept on asking me how to do it, so I told him what I knew. It was up to him to debunk it or not.

Hi lurner,

i must apologize for that question, but why do you tell me this twice, that this works and then give me a lol when i told you, that this does not work and that this switch is for something else. I mean, it is obvious that the /KERNEL Flag is for something totally different, when you read the WinDbg Help File or the WDK Docs, not speaking from the Windows Manuals itself. I have strong development/debugging experience on usermode and kernelmode code and if you read what the /KERNEL switch is good for, then you will see that it expects something totally different than a ISO/IMG file which are NOT executable code at all!

And by the way: Why do you tell me that when you dont know what you are talking about? This makes no sence,...and additinally twice with a lol. This makes really no sense to me. Then you say that the "debunk" is up to me. Sorry, but this is really irresponsible. Let me give you a advise: Never talk about something where you dont have a fundamental knowledge about it, especially when it comes to things like that where you can seriously damage a system by giving wrong answers and still insist that they are working! And i tell you this for your own protection. Just a kind advice!

Regards

Kerem

lurner · Post by **lurner** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:39 pm

Why do people here have no sense of grammar? Is this how you guys talk to people in reality? I mean, if you walk up to strangers and ask a question like you did and then one of them says I think you can do this, so try it out and let me know the results, do you just say what that is not how you do that, your pathetic or whatnot and then laugh at them? I'd certainly punch you straight in the mouth if you did that to me in person, so I am reacting in the way I think I should because I was insulted by the remarks that followed my reply. If people here think they can talk down to me, then they have another thing coming. That's all.

keremg · Post by **keremg** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:51 pm

lurner wrote:Why do people here have no sense of grammar? Is this how you guys talk to people in reality? I mean, if you walk up to strangers and ask a question like you did and then one of them says I think you can do this, so try it out and let me know the results, do you just say what that is not how you do that, your pathetic or whatnot and then laugh at them? I'd certainly punch you straight in the mouth if you did that to me in person, so I am reacting in the way I think I should because I was insulted by the remarks that followed my reply. If people here think they can talk down to me, then they have another thing coming. That's all.

I did not say any bad things to you, i just gave you some kind advice that you should think about what you are writing here and i am thankful to any help. I did not say something like that you are pathetic nor did i laugh at you so why do you react like that? You can react the way you like and the way you think it is appropriate, this is REALLY up to you. But think about your statements, because at a certain point it can be considered "trolling", and i did not say that you are a troll. You seem to be a very novice developer since you say that you asm with nasm (good choice!) and compile with DJGPP which is not the best choice, at all a bad choice since you could have much better compilers (MS VC++, Intel C++, etc). But once again: This is up 2 you!

I think, we should mark EOT at this position, since i got my answer and it would be a waste of time continuing,...

If i said something bad to you i want to appologize here in puplic! I am sorry for whatever i said that made you angry!

And believe me, it is not that easy to punch my face, since i am a 2nd Dan Ju-Jutsu Combatant,....

Why people always try to hurt eachother, thats really unnecessary.

Regards

Kerem

lurner · Post by **lurner** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:34 am

I was not talking to you Kerem, I was more like talking through you to Brynet, he was the one who called me pathetic. And, what are you in the military or something? Only people in combat need to learn the stuff you mentioned.

Now let me show you something. ComBuster said to me in this thread:

link: http://www.osdev.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15871

Which was:

jal wrote:
Next time I'll make sure it compiles Smile.

IMHO The key to providing code is that others learn from it. Not copying it without understanding it. Hence an occasional compile error should not stop anybody from taking a lesson out of it.

Jal was just being nice saying he would check his code in the future to make sure it worked before posting it, then this a-hole Combuster comes along and says this stuff I posted above, AND THEN has the nerve to come over here and shout out about how I shouldn't try to help people if I don't know what I am talking about... well FU you dirty little hypocrite!! No one asked for your worthless opinion anyway!!

Then Brynet thinks he can come in here and call me pathetic after I have already been insulted by Combuster? That is absurd and I wont stand for it, I don't care how many Dans they are or how many red stripes they have on a black belt, if someone comes to me and speaks like that to me, I am not a happy fellow. I'd be ready to fight, that is just how it is.

Anyway, sorry Kerem for trolling on your thread. You seem like a nice guy and I am really quite a pleasant and gentle person most of the time myself.

HIIIIII-YAHHHH

P.s. I am certainly not new to development. I write in ASM16\32, VB\VB.NET, C\C++ which I do normally compile with VS, Java, PHP, Ruby, ASP, HTML/CSS/JS, and a few more scripting langs. I am just new to OS dev. Thanks for noticing.

Combuster · Post by **Combuster** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:04 am

lurner wrote:I was not talking to you Kerem, I was more like talking through you to Brynet, he was the one who called me pathetic. And, what are you in the military or something? Only people in combat need to learn the stuff you mentioned.

Whatever you may think, making insults is WRONG independent of who started.

Now let me show you something. ComBuster said to me in this thread:

link: http://www.osdev.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15871

Which was:

jal wrote:
Next time I'll make sure it compiles Smile.

IMHO The key to providing code is that others learn from it. Not copying it without understanding it. Hence an occasional compile error should not stop anybody from taking a lesson out of it.
Jal was just being nice saying he would check his code in the future to make sure it worked before posting it, then this a-hole Combuster comes along and says this stuff I posted above, AND THEN has the nerve to come over here and shout out about how I shouldn't try to help people if I don't know what I am talking about... well FU you dirty little hypocrite!! No one asked for your worthless opinion anyway!!

You can obviously not make the distinction between making an completely uninformed post or a post with a typo in it. Jal knew exactly what he was talking about. You had no clue. You wrote no code. Your argument is therefore void.

Then Brynet think he can come in here and call me pathetic after I have already been insulted by Combuster? That is absurd and I wont stand for it, I don't care how many Dans they are or how many red stripes they have on a black belt, if someone comes to me and speaks like that to me, I am not a happy fellow. I'd be ready to fight.

I did not flame you anywhere. If my request that you be careful about posting random hunches was insulting, then you'd have to know that I did not intend any. Once again, even if I did insult you, there is no reason to return the favour. It'll only give you an immature reputation.

Discussion closed as per Keremg's request.