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 Post subject: What does the future hold?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:07 am 
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Now with windows and linux getting to big to handle, what's next for the operating system world?

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:06 am 
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Location: Unknown. Momentum is pretty certain, however.
My prediction is that one group will start working on a brand-new kernel at some point.

Until then we have to use bloated kernels.

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:29 am 
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*cough*Pedigree*cough*

Seriously. If there's a Ruby and NASM port, I'll build and install it on my old laptop.

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:31 am 
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Troy Martin wrote:
*cough*Pedigree*cough*

Seriously. If there's a Ruby and NASM port, I'll build and install it on my old laptop.


If it get's a gui and wireless working that's all I need. :twisted:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:34 am 
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I don't care about the internet, I just want to be able to port Bochs and NASM to it so it can be used to develop and test TBOS :D

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It keeps stunning me how friendly we - as a community - are towards people who start programming "their first OS" who don't even have a solid understanding of pointers, their compiler, or how a OS is structured.

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:50 am 
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Yeah, but you can't develop an OS without hardware documentation. :wink:

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I bet, a virtual machine os; an os in its real sense; something that doesn't even leave the unabstracted processor for the applications. Someone will get rid of the performance issues with a virtual machine (something better than code translation)...


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nekros wrote:
Yeah, but you can't develop an OS without hardware documentation. :wink:

You can with knowledge though.

I also said I'd put in on my old laptop, my new one will still have vista on it :)

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
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vista is a dud.lmfao

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:57 pm 
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Hi,

nekros wrote:
Now with windows and linux getting to big to handle, what's next for the operating system world?


My predictions:
  • Big and bloated OSs will get bigger and more bloated
  • Nobody will switch to a smaller/less bloated OS because it doesn't have all the features that they've become used to
  • CPU manufacturers will add more and more cores
  • Programming techniques that don't scale will be replaced by event driven systems that do scale
  • Embedded systems will eventually all become 80x86 compatible
  • Big and bloated OSs that were designed for programming techniques that don't scale (e.g. POSIX) will slowly die
  • A big and bloated OS that's being designed as an event driven system will eventually reach 95% market share for embedded systems, desktop and server
  • I'll sell a few trillion copies of the OS for $10 each, buy an island and retire :D

Cheers,

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:27 pm 
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Troy Martin wrote:
Seriously. If there's a Ruby and NASM port, I'll build and install it on my old laptop.


/me also has a Ruby and NASM port on his OS. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
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O.o

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!! :lol:

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It keeps stunning me how friendly we - as a community - are towards people who start programming "their first OS" who don't even have a solid understanding of pointers, their compiler, or how a OS is structured.

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
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What would be cool is if all of the people (well, the people who know what they are doing) here would collaborate on an OS, one that we could all develop here in the underground while everyone else is complaining until it get's to a usable point. That would be friggin awesome!

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
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We've already tried that multiple fscking times. It never worked, mainly because of conflicting ideas, no design before coding, nothing to base off of, and a couple of idiots who have no fscking idea what they're doing.

Then again, if anyone's interested in trying that again, PM me and we could set up a channel or something so we can start designing before coding.

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 Post subject: Re: What does the future hold?
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That's why I haven't done a whole lot of coding with my kernel yet, design is everything. Yeah, I would love to try a collaboration, design first.

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